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from last podcast on the left I have

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been waiting forever man we we've been

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our ships have been passing for years

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now and it's finally happening it's

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finally happening it really means

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something to me because I people ask me

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all the time like what do I listen to

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like in terms of what do I get

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information from and I listen to you

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somewhere in the skies is probably one

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of my it's like one of my favorite pure

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UFO podcasts and so I'm just happy to be

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here

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wow thanks man well you do such good

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work you know what and I will say

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because I listened to the witness when

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you do the the witness accounts like

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that is some of my favorite like I don't

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know what it says about me but I listen

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to it sometimes to go to sleep in hotel

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rooms like I'll listen to it and talk

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and then like I have crazy ass dreams

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like as I go like because I find the

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store I find every one of those like I

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mean they're very very compelling but

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like you have the nice soothing music

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and then everyone so I'll be like you're

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in there in our song but triangular

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object come over the horizon it's like

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it's my version of ASMR

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hey I get I actually I get that all the

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time that I put people to sleep so I

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don't know whether to take that or not I

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get it all the time too you know what it

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is sometimes I'm alone in a hotel room

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I'm looking for company and it's nice to

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have a voice and like the my issue is

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that the reason why then I have to stop

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it is that then I get drawn into a story

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and then all of a sudden now I can't

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sleep because I'm like I'm under the

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cover it's just like listening to

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because I find witness accounts to be

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deeply compelling especially like

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anybody that has like you know we were

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just talking about it uh on this week's

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side stories about like really the the

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dividing line between all these various

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stories where like if you see an orb in

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the sky

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it could just be Tech that we don't know

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about unless you have some kind of

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emotional reaction because a lot of them

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to me the most compelling Witness

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stories or all the ones are like I

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experienced a wave of emotion when I saw

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this thing besides just wonder like

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literally like hearing a Vibe that's

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like calm down or like why do you use

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nuclear weapons and you're like I don't

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know my name's Tammy I'm from Missouri I

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don't know why you're asking me why we'd

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use these horrible things gray man

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it's true though man like the the

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biggest question uh that a lot of these

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people have when they see these things

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is why me like either they feel like

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they were chosen or or even if it was

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complete happenstance like it changes

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their lives in some ways so I'm happy

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that the witness accounts resonate with

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you because look even when I'm editing

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those episodes together I get so

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enthralled by the stories that I forget

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oh I'm creating a podcast episode I'm

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not I'm not just listening to this um

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yeah so I love that and you know we're

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on I'm coming out with one uh next week

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actually volume 26. damn the 26 witness

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accounts volumes which shows truly how

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prolific and how uh you know how so many

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people are seeing these things and they

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can't explain what it is well look at

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what we just we're dealing with right

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now we got you know we they're we're

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that like number one they've been there

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this whole time because we are just

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turning it on now right so we're just

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turning the system on now so we can see

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him which means this stuff's been

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floating up there and then also Millions

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seen something something anomalous that

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is in the sky and it's just weird how

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like they're all catching up and the

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first thing that we decide to do is

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scramble f22s at it yeah shoot and ask

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questions later it's very American let's

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be completely honest but I really feel

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well it talked about it this idea like

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aren't these generals afraid I thought

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that's what George schnapp was talking

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about that he was so scared they're all

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scared of the phenomena though aren't

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you afraid to poke the bear

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yeah yeah I know why are we blowing them

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we'll go there I definitely want to get

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your brutal thoughts on uh brutally

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honest I should say thoughts on all the

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stuff going on now but um I want to

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backtrack for just a few moments I know

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you've answered these questions a

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million times but for any of my viewers

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my listeners who uh may not be familiar

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with your podcast and the work you do um

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you know coming from New York City I was

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a playwright most of my life so I'm

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always interested to uh to meet and meet

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other people who act who who are into

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the uh the acting world so I gotta ask

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before we even get to UFOs uh how did

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you get interested in acting how did

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that whole journey start for you oh oh

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man I am just not a skilled person

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that I was a ham as a little boy and I

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immediately got a form of positive

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validation outside of my parents right

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my parents were obviously I was a kid

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that like you know like many kids born

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in the mid 80s was immediately diagnosed

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with ADHD they're all like oh he's got

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our add I think they used to call it you

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know and they're like because I was very

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energetic and probably add but the what

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my mom did was that in order to like fix

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me what she just said instead of putting

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them on Ritalin like they did with half

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of our generation they um just tied me

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to things right like my mom would

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literally I would be like a high

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security prisoner everywhere I went I

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used to have two leashes on me I had a

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leash on my wrist I had a leash in my

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belt I was walking everywhere I was like

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what is this Steve Buscemi from Con Air

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right like that's how I was put

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um and I think that obviously exhausted

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my parents but then everyone else was

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like oh your son's a little star he

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loves to act and I did immediately and I

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remember the First Act the first acting

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job I got was in third grade because I

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was a baby model for a second but then I

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was fired from being a baby model

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because I wouldn't take Direction

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which I don't even know what that means

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literally was like an uncontrolled I was

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like a little Mickey Rourke uh yeah but

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uh I got my first role a third grade

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play where I played an alien that was

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dressed like Santa Claus and I got the

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for the Santa Claus costume and I was

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willing to do it so boom what I first

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willing to do what others won't and

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you'd be really surprised what comes

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your way uh as long as you're really

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allow yourself to get pretty gross with

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it and then later on I think it really

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it came from um just a genuine uh deep

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vacuous hole inside that needed to be

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filled with attention but then I

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weaponized it in a way that really

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worked for me and then I also love it I

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just love to enter I love to be funny I

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used to talk so much in class so they

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the day I had a fifth grade teacher who

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just do at school and then I just

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started doing drama when I was 15 and it

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just has been this way ever since and I

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went to Florida State University which

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wasn't really like an acting school but

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like I had good teachers that were all

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like go usually guys who just need to go

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to New York and so my sketch group my

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sketch comedy group that was together

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called murderfist we went to Florida

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State University together and then we

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all moved to New York and then it went

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all right we just keep going I and I

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just love it you know it's just been I'm

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very lucky in the fact that uh we have

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no connections I think we are possibly

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the I don't know how what the opposite

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of a nepo baby is

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um we the exact opposite we are not

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wanted full adult like we were actively

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told don't join show business but now

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we've been doing it for long enough that

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uh we just kind of weasled our way in

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that's awesome man well in you guys you

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you filled I think

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a void that was desperately needed in a

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lot of this sort of um

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podcasting world we live in you know

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you've got these UFO podcasts you got

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these True Crime podcasts you've got all

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these things that take it way too

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seriously we started this 12 years ago

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last podcast on the left so those of you

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don't know I I co-host a show called

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last podcast on the left which is a

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comedy podcast about True Crime

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paranormal serial killers everything

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that is within what we view a giant

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umbrella you know with all Horrors

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imagined and real is like how Marcus put

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it and when we started there was none of

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that we were we call ourselves second

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wave because the first wave was like

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Adam Carolla Joe Rogan was only about a

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year before us Mark Maron was about a

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year before us and they were doing one

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thing and at the time the only content

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that was out there was hype or what you

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were saying hyper truly hyper serious it

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was either well we used to make fun of

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True Crime voice where like in

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Springville no one ever locked their

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doors you know like and now like we we

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started as an adverse reaction

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to that very very heavy content because

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we knew we were the people that were

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interested in this subject matter and

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we're going to talk like it so we know

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that the people that are act the people

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that were actually into this stuff talk

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the way that we did joking about it

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because Gallows humor kind of comes with

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the territory and over time the show was

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really gotten thicker and thicker and

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thicker because number one we know we

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want to be true to our audience and we

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want them to know that we are like

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digging hard like we're working real

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having that show be as as thick as it

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possibly can be and it's weird to watch

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an entire two the entire genre grow

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around you all of a sudden there's true

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there's comedy paranormal True Crime

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shows everywhere and you're like I don't

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we started that but I didn't know it

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would keep going and so we're just here

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now it's like 12 years later it's like

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it really just like we just put our head

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down we put our head down to work like

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12 years ago and it's like we keep

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lifting our head up we're like what holy

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[\h__\h] okay oh [\h__\h] and so we just keep

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doing it we just love doing it well in

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that in it shows and you know I think

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what happens in the podcasting world and

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I learned this early on

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um you know I'm only like three years in

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so that's nothing compared to something

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like what you guys have achieved but I

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think three years well thank you I

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appreciate I've never missed a single

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week yeah um and that's something I've

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never experience a day off and then it's

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fine as long as you've never once

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experienced a day off then it's like you

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not missing the you're not missing the

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weekend if you never have one you know

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what I mean exactly exactly as long as

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you sacrifice your health your

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relationships you'll have a successful

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part no it's that easy

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it's that easy well that's kind of my

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point is you see so many people trying

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to podcasts and after one or two three

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episodes they're like oh this is way too

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much work or I'm not making money off of

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this like I've done and I make a dime

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every day oh yeah of course we didn't

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make a dime for seven years we did the

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show for free at that level for seven

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years but mostly it was again it's

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because I didn't know

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I didn't know what else to do we were so

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interested and we were just like why

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would we stop we already we're into it

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we're watching the audience grow and we

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felt good about doing it so we're like

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we're just gonna keep doing it and also

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it it's reiterating the same lesson that

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I've learned in the this business that

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I'm in which is if you wanted something

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to be there for you you have to make it

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and then you have to show up every day

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and you have to make it the job you want

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it to be

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without like you're now it's more like

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understanding putting making sure you're

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feeling the joy with it as you go

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but you know we made it a job

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yep and we now we're like accidental

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experts in all of this stuff sort of

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it's more like people ask me stuff and I

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don't even realize like what I know

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anymore because of all the years of

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reading all of this you know I don't

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remember my niece's birthday

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but I know a lot about UFOs but you

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remember what day you know the Roswell

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crash happened I'm the same time yeah

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yeah exactly well hey let's go there not

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Roswell um Roswell has been done to

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death but I was listening to one of your

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more recent episodes uh on the Trinity

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UFO crash what do you think of this

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thing I find it that's my question for

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you

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it's I I think that there is a reason

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why because now we're talking about like

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this new group what's what's the new the

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new UAP group it's not a tip yeah Arrow

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Arrow yeah and that what they decided

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was like because they're going through

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this database I've been listening to a

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lot of Jack valet right and I love

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Jacques right I love him I think he's

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brilliant um

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he he can talk

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for a long time and it's very

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esoterically you have to kind of peel

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apart because he's much smarter than us

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and so I I'm trying to listen to him

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talk and he was kind of talking about

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how he was a part of the team that put

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together the artificial intelligence

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like aggregate software to put together

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this database of information that this

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new group arrow is going to use for

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witness testimony right from both inside

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the military and out and then it's that

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question of like well if Roswell started

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1947 they're talking about all this

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shit's now going to start in 1945. so I

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guess like there's somebody in the

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Pentagon that decided that that Trinity

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experience was

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strong enough

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to be the actual big Mar the beginning

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marker of what we call Modern UFOs like

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you know and and it's very interesting I

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feel like the the main thing that uh

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that compels me is the physical evidence

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like the idea of like like some kind of

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object bounced off a control tower uh is

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very it you know we know that that hap

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something bounced off a control tower

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they said that that definitely happened

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the weird thing with the the the the

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cleared out all of the rubble like you

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know obviously the quote unquote Men In

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Black showed up cleared it all up but

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then like a bunch of poisonous plants

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being buried there or implanted there to

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keep people away there was like one

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thing they said that might have happened

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there's something about it and having

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those kids have like you know those now

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old men

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have the memories of seeing this thing

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and experience this thing is also very

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compelling

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and I you know it just shows that what

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we're dealing with right now whatever it

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is that's happening in our skies right

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now over North America like this is

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this might be something attached to it

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like this might be something because if

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we can blow them up maybe they can also

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crash

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if it is what we think it is or if it's

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like you know uh what's her name who

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wrote this story about Area 51 who said

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that the actual answer to Roswell was

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that it was surgically altered prisoners

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from Russia Annie Jacobson Anna Jacobson

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saying that he was sending these things

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over which I think is a far crazier

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explanation than aliens

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dude I well okay [\h__\h] maybe I know

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because they said they saw the little

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people coming out of it so maybe like in

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1945 the Trinity crash so maybe they're

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saying that that's what that is a bunch

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of confused

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Russians just out of surgery that's

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going like oh [\h__\h] the how did we get we

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were at summer vacation and then all of

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a sudden now they're getting like

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they're just getting scooped up and

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dropped off a Dolce you've no clue why

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they're there they've been put in a big

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tank just being like we are not the

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aliens we are just from other country

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you know and no one will and they're

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like exactly

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we got you bagged and tagged dude I mean

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well and that's it you bring up a good

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point that's far more disturbing than

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even aliens crashing on our planet if we

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were you if some country whether it's

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Russia or us there's even stories that

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um we were using you know mentally

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disabled children and putting them up in

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these high altitude balloons to see so

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scientists yeah those Sciences are going

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to get canceled and I think they need to

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be really careful about because those

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things I mean it does obviously seem to

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help in touring numbers but when it

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comes down to they'll never be able to

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surgically alter mentally handicap

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people for NBC ever again

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and that's the worst fate you can

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imagine but no it's really

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it's more that the idea of the links

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that the whatever information that was

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planted back in the day talking about

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the this incident

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was kind of it's kind of interesting how

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they show the links they'd go I feel the

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same way kind of about like this is

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where we're getting real conspiracy

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territory where like the idea that like

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you make the things inside of MK Ultra

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so unbelievable that no one would

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believe you if you even told them so you

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create this crazy inner inner inner

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secret like what like you know we what

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lrh elron Hubbard like kind of cemented

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with the Xenu reveal which is the

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ultimate you've been here for so long

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you've been researching these things so

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long you've given me so much of our lot

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of your life I'm not going to show you

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the the quote unquote real inner secret

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and it's this Wackadoo like story and

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now it's too late because now you kind

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of have to buy it now you're invested

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but yeah I don't know because yeah like

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the idea of where's the information

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chain in Russia where is the the series

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of memos of finding the mentally

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challenged kids to do the surgery on who

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was the surgeon where did they do the

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surgery where are the other UFO like

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went to one news report talking about

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how like if what we're seeing over North

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America is high tech from other

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countries would they not have wanted to

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demonstrate Total Domination over the

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aerial space a long time ago why would

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they be waiting to just let it float

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over above Alaska wouldn't they be using

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this [\h__\h] so I feel like it's the same

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thing with with Roswell and and what

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happened there were like I feel like we

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would have seen a lot more of them if

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they had this stuff but like and oh out

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in the open that you would have seen

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Stalin ride in one like a like a cowboy

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just to show everybody he has one

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yeah absolutely I don't know well and

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it's such a uh a weird game and we're

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seeing it play out right now too this

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this mystery's been with us you know

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even before Roswell and it's a matter of

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how will

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you know the government or the various

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intelligence agencies use that mystery

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to their advantage and I think that's

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kind of what we're seeing play out right

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now is they're not saying you know

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they're all surveillance they're not

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saying they're all Bloons they're saying

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they're unidentified objects and what

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does that mean to most people

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aliens freaking UFO yeah

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yeah

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they wanted they wanted the confusion

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but now it's like the buck got passed to

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us to figure out why

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why are you saying the word UFOs all

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I've heard the word all I've heard is

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the word UAP

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since December 2017 when those videos

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came out like all we've heard is UAP and

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then all of a sudden as soon as we start

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shooting them we're calling them UFOs

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you know like now it's now we're calling

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them that but I I actually I really I I

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guess that's that's what's so hard right

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is that

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conspiracy thinking is taking disparate

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points and trying to string together a

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story because there's a vacuum in

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information

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and so it seems that they are purposely

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doing it with a lack of information now

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number one does it mean

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that they don't have that information at

542
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:20,820
all because that's a part of me like is

543
00:21:26,090 --> 00:21:22,559
it just general confusion is there is

544
00:21:29,149 --> 00:21:26,100
full Occam's razor to this where you got

545
00:21:31,730 --> 00:21:29,159
old man Biden who is just as scared of

546
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:31,740
this stuff as everybody else's and they

547
00:21:36,049 --> 00:21:33,840
legitimately don't know what it is right

548
00:21:37,730 --> 00:21:36,059
because to me I would first say like if

549
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:37,740
they didn't know what it was they

550
00:21:41,330 --> 00:21:39,600
probably would have called it a balloon

551
00:21:43,909 --> 00:21:41,340
I think that they we've seen this time

552
00:21:46,190 --> 00:21:43,919
and time again that they've they've just

553
00:21:48,409 --> 00:21:46,200
actively lied but at least with Roswell

554
00:21:49,549 --> 00:21:48,419
I'm gonna come repeat this joke that I

555
00:21:51,710 --> 00:21:49,559
did this week but it was like Elizabeth

556
00:21:53,230 --> 00:21:51,720
Roswell they gave us the credit of

557
00:21:56,570 --> 00:21:53,240
giving us a Reach Around by like

558
00:21:58,010 --> 00:21:56,580
dropping off some fake wreckage at least

559
00:22:00,669 --> 00:21:58,020
at least they're like that was I was

560
00:22:04,430 --> 00:22:00,679
saying also it's like show me a balloon

561
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:04,440
you know or two are they doing this for

562
00:22:08,350 --> 00:22:06,000
some

563
00:22:13,610 --> 00:22:08,360
counter Espionage

564
00:22:16,970 --> 00:22:13,620
deep like some some propaganda reason to

565
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:16,980
flex to China to flex to Europe deflects

566
00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:18,480
to Russia like

567
00:22:23,930 --> 00:22:21,360
I don't know and then on some level it

568
00:22:26,330 --> 00:22:23,940
just makes me tired because the one

569
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:26,340
thing I know for a fact that now hearing

570
00:22:29,870 --> 00:22:27,600
them all talk about it makes me think

571
00:22:32,510 --> 00:22:29,880
when you insinuate that it's UFOs and

572
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:32,520
aliens I know it's not because you're

573
00:22:37,070 --> 00:22:35,280
not gonna say it until you get one

574
00:22:38,450 --> 00:22:37,080
voting for you you know I mean like

575
00:22:40,010 --> 00:22:38,460
you're not gonna get one you're not

576
00:22:42,430 --> 00:22:40,020
gonna I know you're not gonna say it

577
00:22:45,289 --> 00:22:42,440
until it is a we're gonna have a full

578
00:22:47,570 --> 00:22:45,299
rollout it's gonna be like showing that

579
00:22:49,549 --> 00:22:47,580
like Tupac's still alive he's gonna come

580
00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:49,559
out you're gonna have that next to like

581
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:51,000
you know everybody's favorite Melissa

582
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:54,000
McCarthy they're gonna intro the alien

583
00:22:57,409 --> 00:22:55,679
to society you know like they're gonna

584
00:22:59,450 --> 00:22:57,419
come out and say something where I'm

585
00:23:01,789 --> 00:22:59,460
that's in my view where like if you

586
00:23:03,230 --> 00:23:01,799
start saying the word UFOs it's like now

587
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:03,240
you're just lying to me to my [\h__\h]

588
00:23:07,549 --> 00:23:06,000
face yeah like what's going on here like

589
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:07,559
why are you doing this because I know

590
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:08,880
you're doing this for a reason I don't

591
00:23:12,289 --> 00:23:10,799
know what it is and and maybe it's

592
00:23:14,330 --> 00:23:12,299
because you know we we brought it up

593
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:14,340
this week about like covering you know

594
00:23:18,110 --> 00:23:16,799
like not necessarily one to get too deep

595
00:23:20,750 --> 00:23:18,120
into the fact that there was a massive

596
00:23:22,610 --> 00:23:20,760
massive chemical spill in Ohio maybe

597
00:23:25,549 --> 00:23:22,620
it's something like that but it seems to

598
00:23:27,169 --> 00:23:25,559
also tie into just this whole thing this

599
00:23:32,510 --> 00:23:27,179
whole

600
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:32,520
their new system of thought of like

601
00:23:37,070 --> 00:23:35,520
embracing UFOs which I mean I think for

602
00:23:38,570 --> 00:23:37,080
some is really cool I've Loved on your

603
00:23:40,430 --> 00:23:38,580
show of you talked about the hopefulness

604
00:23:41,390 --> 00:23:40,440
of it and you hope that it will bring

605
00:23:45,169 --> 00:23:41,400
some

606
00:23:46,490 --> 00:23:45,179
like much needed light and legitimacy to

607
00:23:48,890 --> 00:23:46,500
the subject where we can get some real

608
00:23:50,990 --> 00:23:48,900
like real money to actually investigate

609
00:23:53,270 --> 00:23:51,000
it and real people to actually willing

610
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:53,280
to put their names on it and say I'm

611
00:23:56,510 --> 00:23:54,480
willing to invest I'm willing to

612
00:23:58,370 --> 00:23:56,520
investigate it for for quote-unquote

613
00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:58,380
reasons you know now that it's legit

614
00:24:02,870 --> 00:24:00,960
I'll do it or they just doing it to

615
00:24:05,810 --> 00:24:02,880
bring it further closer to the vest

616
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:05,820
being like now we got it now yeah don't

617
00:24:11,029 --> 00:24:07,440
worry we got don't worry we're handling

618
00:24:14,029 --> 00:24:11,039
all of this meanwhile it's just more

619
00:24:15,950 --> 00:24:14,039
psyops that we're being subjected to and

620
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:15,960
which I and and I'm not quite certain

621
00:24:21,950 --> 00:24:18,240
what the purpose of the psyops are

622
00:24:24,649 --> 00:24:21,960
yeah I don't no one is and I mean that

623
00:24:27,350 --> 00:24:24,659
you're so right I mean if they can keep

624
00:24:29,570 --> 00:24:27,360
a hold and control the narrative then

625
00:24:32,690 --> 00:24:29,580
that's what they've been doing all along

626
00:24:34,970 --> 00:24:32,700
but I think what we're seeing sort of

627
00:24:37,789 --> 00:24:34,980
play out Henry which is the hopeful Side

628
00:24:39,590 --> 00:24:37,799
of Me no and you know even more than I

629
00:24:42,049 --> 00:24:39,600
do like I'd love to know like what is

630
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:42,059
the what is the hopeful like angle of

631
00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:44,640
yes like it's hard because there's

632
00:24:51,289 --> 00:24:47,700
there's very little to be hopeful about

633
00:24:53,930 --> 00:24:51,299
when you kind of got your hopes up in

634
00:24:58,250 --> 00:24:53,940
2017 I mean there's no denying that

635
00:25:00,289 --> 00:24:58,260
story that broke in 2017 like was huge

636
00:25:03,049 --> 00:25:00,299
and it'll be change your story for the

637
00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:03,059
UFO for UFO history however everything

638
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:06,240
after that it's what happens after and

639
00:25:11,029 --> 00:25:07,919
we're getting

640
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:11,039
groups within the Pentagon were getting

641
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:13,679
um Congress people uh talking about it

642
00:25:18,049 --> 00:25:16,559
we're a lot has happened and now we're

643
00:25:20,330 --> 00:25:18,059
at the point where we're shooting them

644
00:25:22,010 --> 00:25:20,340
out of the sky and not telling the

645
00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:22,020
public what we're shooting out of the

646
00:25:25,070 --> 00:25:22,860
sky

647
00:25:27,049 --> 00:25:25,080
that's all it gives me a headache man

648
00:25:30,350 --> 00:25:27,059
thinking about it but there's something

649
00:25:32,750 --> 00:25:30,360
special about yes oh I'm sorry the thing

650
00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:32,760
I'm hopeful about is um the ripple

651
00:25:36,890 --> 00:25:34,559
effect after that it's the people who

652
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:36,900
like you said were inspired these

653
00:25:40,490 --> 00:25:39,120
scientists who are like whoa there's

654
00:25:43,549 --> 00:25:40,500
something to this so when you see

655
00:25:47,630 --> 00:25:43,559
someone like you know Eric Weinstein or

656
00:25:50,090 --> 00:25:47,640
um uh Avi Loeb being like yo there's

657
00:25:51,769 --> 00:25:50,100
there this is legit now I can actually

658
00:25:54,049 --> 00:25:51,779
talk about this because I think there's

659
00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:54,059
something to it cool and then what then

660
00:25:59,649 --> 00:25:56,760
what happens Harvard funds Avi Loeb to

661
00:26:03,049 --> 00:25:59,659
go look for techno signatures of alien

662
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:03,059
artifacts which is a ripple effect of

663
00:26:07,490 --> 00:26:06,000
everything that's happened post 2017. so

664
00:26:09,950 --> 00:26:07,500
no it's kind of the stuff I'm hopeful

665
00:26:12,409 --> 00:26:09,960
about you know no me too and I because I

666
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:12,419
I the one thing about this subject

667
00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:15,840
matter is that I think obviously there's

668
00:26:18,769 --> 00:26:17,460
there's contingent of people who are

669
00:26:21,169 --> 00:26:18,779
like don't we have more important things

670
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:21,179
to focus on which I'm like I'm sure sure

671
00:26:25,669 --> 00:26:22,799
yes there's been there's a lot of

672
00:26:28,130 --> 00:26:25,679
there's a lot of [\h__\h] going on uh to put

673
00:26:29,930 --> 00:26:28,140
it lightly there's a lot going on but

674
00:26:32,750 --> 00:26:29,940
there's something about this

675
00:26:37,850 --> 00:26:32,760
this Avenue of thought that I think can

676
00:26:40,430 --> 00:26:37,860
give Humanity hope past just basos like

677
00:26:43,130 --> 00:26:40,440
fat like you know needing he's trying to

678
00:26:46,010 --> 00:26:43,140
bail on us right like Bezos did a little

679
00:26:47,870 --> 00:26:46,020
trial run to go to space to say the

680
00:26:49,909 --> 00:26:47,880
quiet power part out loud of being like

681
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:49,919
I'm gonna be living in space while this

682
00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:52,559
rock dies all right bye everybody and

683
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:55,679
then realize it's real difficult like he

684
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:58,799
got up there and he was like oh this is

685
00:27:02,269 --> 00:26:59,520
it

686
00:27:04,549 --> 00:27:02,279
first class on the the Emirates flight

687
00:27:07,010 --> 00:27:04,559
like I did that one time like oh this is

688
00:27:09,830 --> 00:27:07,020
not this sucks like I'm nauseous like

689
00:27:12,169 --> 00:27:09,840
this isn't Fun and so I think that

690
00:27:13,250 --> 00:27:12,179
there's that that angle that people get

691
00:27:15,710 --> 00:27:13,260
but there's something like this that

692
00:27:18,890 --> 00:27:15,720
shows that like no like

693
00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:18,900
in our new Godless world

694
00:27:24,830 --> 00:27:21,900
like there is something to like Point

695
00:27:28,669 --> 00:27:24,840
yourself towards where you're like there

696
00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:28,679
is there is more to this there is more

697
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:32,220
to our reality as we know it and yes I

698
00:27:36,890 --> 00:27:33,600
think a lot of it's going to end up just

699
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:36,900
being unexplored areas it's just like

700
00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:39,600
sticking our head into into closets into

701
00:27:43,850 --> 00:27:42,120
places that we have just not been and

702
00:27:46,010 --> 00:27:43,860
and what what it's going to mean and

703
00:27:47,570 --> 00:27:46,020
like looking at life differently but I

704
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:47,580
think that that's important I think it's

705
00:27:50,330 --> 00:27:48,960
important to also know that like you

706
00:27:52,130 --> 00:27:50,340
know you don't need even a mystical

707
00:27:55,370 --> 00:27:52,140
reason to live you don't need a it's

708
00:27:57,890 --> 00:27:55,380
there there's life is is is thick and

709
00:28:00,710 --> 00:27:57,900
powerful enough to be examined on its

710
00:28:02,450 --> 00:28:00,720
own and it's here right now like I think

711
00:28:04,010 --> 00:28:02,460
a lot of what we're gonna see is some of

712
00:28:07,210 --> 00:28:04,020
the stuff that we're we're that's

713
00:28:11,210 --> 00:28:07,220
floating around and our atmosphere

714
00:28:14,029 --> 00:28:11,220
is literal living organisms that we've

715
00:28:16,390 --> 00:28:14,039
just never really cataloged before and

716
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:16,400
never known how to look at and that like

717
00:28:22,250 --> 00:28:18,720
my whole thing with the phenomena is

718
00:28:24,169 --> 00:28:22,260
that it's like a 25 layer cake it has

719
00:28:30,289 --> 00:28:24,179
many different

720
00:28:32,870 --> 00:28:30,299
inside one cake and it's got all the

721
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,880
flavors inside of it and each one is

722
00:28:37,669 --> 00:28:34,559
true you know I mean like

723
00:28:40,669 --> 00:28:37,679
maybe there are like Recon or sort of a

724
00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:40,679
nuts and bolts biological species that

725
00:28:45,169 --> 00:28:42,720
it's on its way here maybe there is an

726
00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:45,179
interdimensional factor that pops its

727
00:28:50,029 --> 00:28:47,640
way in and out maybe there is extemporal

728
00:28:52,370 --> 00:28:50,039
humans that are traveling and buzzing us

729
00:28:54,110 --> 00:28:52,380
every once in a while and sort of like

730
00:28:55,610 --> 00:28:54,120
hey so they can't fully break through

731
00:28:57,409 --> 00:28:55,620
because whatever the future technology

732
00:29:00,769 --> 00:28:57,419
that allows them to come and view the

733
00:29:07,070 --> 00:29:00,779
past who [\h__\h] knows but I'm open I am

734
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:10,310
ready to accept the phenomena however

735
00:29:14,649 --> 00:29:13,200
it'll take me as long as you got your

736
00:29:17,210 --> 00:29:14,659
knee pads

737
00:29:18,830 --> 00:29:17,220
I've been stretching that's my lower

738
00:29:21,409 --> 00:29:18,840
back it's been killing me taking this

739
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:21,419
phenomenon the last week and a half

740
00:29:26,029 --> 00:29:23,760
did everybody in your family message you

741
00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:26,039
like how did you can I ask you put this

742
00:29:28,970 --> 00:29:27,360
on you obviously we're doing an

743
00:29:30,889 --> 00:29:28,980
interview after this but like what is

744
00:29:36,190 --> 00:29:30,899
your family like do they all like Ryan

745
00:29:41,630 --> 00:29:38,930
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746
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756
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somewhere Skies

757
00:30:21,889 --> 00:30:18,889
oh yeah I mean it took him a while I

758
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:21,899
think you know when I kind of it was I

759
00:30:27,889 --> 00:30:24,240
threw two curveballs at my family and

760
00:30:30,529 --> 00:30:27,899
that the first was I left pursuing being

761
00:30:33,289 --> 00:30:30,539
a professional baseball player to become

762
00:30:36,110 --> 00:30:33,299
a theater major I mean that's cool

763
00:30:38,090 --> 00:30:36,120
though that's cool well you're giving us

764
00:30:40,909 --> 00:30:38,100
sports that I think Sports is something

765
00:30:43,970 --> 00:30:40,919
else because I I got like I saw my

766
00:30:45,169 --> 00:30:43,980
buddies like I have two friends that

767
00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:45,179
were really good at high school sports

768
00:30:49,010 --> 00:30:47,039
and it was like one entry in their whole

769
00:30:50,450 --> 00:30:49,020
careers oh yeah everything that they've

770
00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:50,460
been preparing for since they were five

771
00:30:54,889 --> 00:30:53,520
years old is over and what has Kirk

772
00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:54,899
Douglas shown is that you can be an

773
00:30:59,810 --> 00:30:56,940
actor for forever

774
00:31:02,810 --> 00:30:59,820
forever man it's a forever job if you

775
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:02,820
get it if you let it um yeah so that was

776
00:31:08,269 --> 00:31:04,320
the first curveball I threw him and then

777
00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:08,279
it was the I want to pursue UFOs with

778
00:31:13,370 --> 00:31:10,559
every waking moment of my life when I'm

779
00:31:15,230 --> 00:31:13,380
not acting or when I'm not playwriting

780
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:15,240
or when I'm not doing my nine to five

781
00:31:20,630 --> 00:31:18,480
job and uh I think they were a little

782
00:31:23,930 --> 00:31:20,640
scared at first they thought I was going

783
00:31:26,930 --> 00:31:23,940
down well the track record of ufology is

784
00:31:29,330 --> 00:31:26,940
not bright exactly and I know most

785
00:31:31,850 --> 00:31:29,340
people talk about that you hold on to

786
00:31:34,730 --> 00:31:31,860
your love you hold on to your love you

787
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:34,740
make sure you check in uh this I mean it

788
00:31:40,490 --> 00:31:37,679
I was during as these so my wife and I

789
00:31:42,889 --> 00:31:40,500
we were having a staycation we walked we

790
00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:42,899
were like we've been working real hard

791
00:31:46,850 --> 00:31:44,880
for Valentine's Day weekend where it's

792
00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:46,860
like we're gonna go we're gonna go to do

793
00:31:51,169 --> 00:31:49,500
a nice little like stay at a hotel like

794
00:31:53,690 --> 00:31:51,179
you know like let somebody else clean

795
00:31:55,130 --> 00:31:53,700
the house for two days and we'll like be

796
00:31:57,049 --> 00:31:55,140
like you know be sexy or whatever

797
00:31:59,389 --> 00:31:57,059
meanwhile

798
00:32:01,370 --> 00:31:59,399
shit's getting blown out of the sky I'm

799
00:32:03,950 --> 00:32:01,380
watching C-SPAN like I'm literally like

800
00:32:06,830 --> 00:32:03,960
watching C-SPAN and talking and like

801
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:06,840
doing my aliens and like Natalie comes

802
00:32:10,730 --> 00:32:09,120
in she's like we we need to go on a

803
00:32:12,049 --> 00:32:10,740
horse ride we're supposed to go to a

804
00:32:15,169 --> 00:32:12,059
horse ride and I was like you're right

805
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:15,179
you're right and she she understands she

806
00:32:18,529 --> 00:32:17,279
married me you know the same things it's

807
00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:18,539
like you're already in this boat I don't

808
00:32:22,090 --> 00:32:19,980
know what to tell you you're gonna guess

809
00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:22,100
what baby you are an unofficial

810
00:32:27,470 --> 00:32:24,960
ufologist now unfortunately you're

811
00:32:28,630 --> 00:32:27,480
you're the first uh sad that this

812
00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:28,640
ufologist

813
00:32:33,889 --> 00:32:31,919
I know hey but no but but she like she's

814
00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:33,899
super into the material too so like as I

815
00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:35,340
talk about it but it is really funny to

816
00:32:40,549 --> 00:32:38,340
try to like be super like romantic and

817
00:32:43,010 --> 00:32:40,559
fun and emotionally connected meanwhile

818
00:32:44,930 --> 00:32:43,020
like it's me just being like what's up

819
00:32:47,630 --> 00:32:44,940
there Joe like I'm like yelling at the

820
00:32:49,549 --> 00:32:47,640
president's just being like Oh

821
00:32:52,370 --> 00:32:49,559
let's go and then come back and you're

822
00:32:55,010 --> 00:32:52,380
trying to make love it's it's hard man I

823
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:55,020
mean every day and I know most of our

824
00:33:00,649 --> 00:32:57,600
listeners and viewers probably struggle

825
00:33:02,450 --> 00:33:00,659
with that too like these topics take a

826
00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:02,460
hold of you because it's a burning

827
00:33:07,070 --> 00:33:05,640
curiosity and it could ultimately change

828
00:33:09,769 --> 00:33:07,080
everything about

829
00:33:12,169 --> 00:33:09,779
life about existence if we were to ever

830
00:33:13,549 --> 00:33:12,179
get any of those answers I also I'm

831
00:33:15,230 --> 00:33:13,559
still just counting on that thing that

832
00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:15,240
means we all never have to work ever

833
00:33:19,370 --> 00:33:17,279
again like let them just come and then

834
00:33:21,649 --> 00:33:19,380
we'll just go I'll be a jester

835
00:33:24,110 --> 00:33:21,659
for the reptilians just like put me I

836
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:24,120
mean I'll be I'm fine I'll be like you

837
00:33:27,230 --> 00:33:25,200
know I don't know what they'll want me

838
00:33:28,909 --> 00:33:27,240
to do it'll probably put various things

839
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:28,919
up my butt you know I mean I know that

840
00:33:33,169 --> 00:33:30,360
that's what they like

841
00:33:34,970 --> 00:33:33,179
apparently that's a thing I know well

842
00:33:37,370 --> 00:33:34,980
hey yeah I mean my family is so

843
00:33:40,370 --> 00:33:37,380
supportive now I think you know once

844
00:33:44,269 --> 00:33:40,380
they saw that the world was now taking

845
00:33:46,909 --> 00:33:44,279
it seriously and that there could be a

846
00:33:48,889 --> 00:33:46,919
core phenomenon happening what that is

847
00:33:51,169 --> 00:33:48,899
nobody truly knows at least I don't

848
00:33:54,049 --> 00:33:51,179
think they do uh that was that was the

849
00:33:56,990 --> 00:33:54,059
moment where I think like I could sit at

850
00:33:59,870 --> 00:33:57,000
a bar with my dad and you know instead

851
00:34:02,269 --> 00:33:59,880
of like watching the the Detroit Lions

852
00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:02,279
or something we're having a conversation

853
00:34:06,830 --> 00:34:05,100
about the renderson forest incident or

854
00:34:08,510 --> 00:34:06,840
something like that you know take it

855
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:08,520
back then they weren't asking me about

856
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:11,520
it it's crazy it's crazy it's kind of

857
00:34:14,930 --> 00:34:12,960
nice I mean I have had to learn I've

858
00:34:16,669 --> 00:34:14,940
learned like four Sports names so that I

859
00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:16,679
could talk to other men so that I don't

860
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:19,200
always talk about UFOs but it is a thing

861
00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:21,839
where it is interesting how the topic

862
00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:24,720
really blows stuff up like we went to go

863
00:34:29,450 --> 00:34:27,599
uh shoot a little pilot presentation for

864
00:34:32,990 --> 00:34:29,460
last podcast in the last podcast Network

865
00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:33,000
and we went to research on the you know

866
00:34:38,690 --> 00:34:35,520
the Stephenville Ohio like Stephenville

867
00:34:40,609 --> 00:34:38,700
Texas uh the the group sighting so we

868
00:34:42,409 --> 00:34:40,619
went down there to go talk to a bunch of

869
00:34:44,089 --> 00:34:42,419
people and

870
00:34:46,849 --> 00:34:44,099
that's it brings people out of the

871
00:34:48,649 --> 00:34:46,859
woodwork because they were this it's a

872
00:34:51,349 --> 00:34:48,659
very small town in Texas

873
00:34:52,970 --> 00:34:51,359
as we were coming like they were not

874
00:34:54,290 --> 00:34:52,980
happy that we were there at first like

875
00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:54,300
we were getting a lot of people like

876
00:34:58,609 --> 00:34:56,399
driving past and blowing their horns and

877
00:35:01,490 --> 00:34:58,619
people yelling us and stuff like and

878
00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:01,500
then at the end of it like it was pretty

879
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:04,320
hostile but all these guys that were

880
00:35:07,609 --> 00:35:05,520
yelling at us we were doing this bar

881
00:35:09,230 --> 00:35:07,619
shoot they'd be like oh you got a nail

882
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:09,240
you do an alien thing

883
00:35:13,250 --> 00:35:12,000
I got a UFO store to tell you and then

884
00:35:14,990 --> 00:35:13,260
they just like all of a sudden they're

885
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:15,000
they're your best friend and they're

886
00:35:21,530 --> 00:35:17,760
saying like hyper emotional like because

887
00:35:24,430 --> 00:35:21,540
again the phenomena opens people up like

888
00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:24,440
there's and even these like hardened

889
00:35:29,650 --> 00:35:27,720
Texans are like like talking about how

890
00:35:32,329 --> 00:35:29,660
like we were interviewing this like

891
00:35:35,569 --> 00:35:32,339
little guy he was a sheriff dude he was

892
00:35:37,849 --> 00:35:35,579
like maybe five foot tall like four feet

893
00:35:40,970 --> 00:35:37,859
wide though like a dual Jack guy with a

894
00:35:42,410 --> 00:35:40,980
crew cut and he was intense but like at

895
00:35:44,569 --> 00:35:42,420
the end like he's getting emotional

896
00:35:46,190 --> 00:35:44,579
because he was just like it it like it

897
00:35:48,109 --> 00:35:46,200
affected him he was like watching he was

898
00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:48,119
like swinging that thing up in the sky

899
00:35:53,089 --> 00:35:50,280
made me understand that we're not alone

900
00:35:56,270 --> 00:35:53,099
in this world and I was like damn like

901
00:35:59,150 --> 00:35:56,280
it's it really does have its UFOs have

902
00:36:01,310 --> 00:35:59,160
that Grassroots kind of emotional effect

903
00:36:03,530 --> 00:36:01,320
that like I just wanted to tell that

904
00:36:06,589 --> 00:36:03,540
dude being like all you had to do was

905
00:36:08,930 --> 00:36:06,599
take mushrooms one time and you could

906
00:36:10,250 --> 00:36:08,940
have avoided a lot of this mess like you

907
00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:10,260
really could have gotten a little bit

908
00:36:14,109 --> 00:36:12,180
more empathy into the system but

909
00:36:16,490 --> 00:36:14,119
whatever works like if it takes aliens

910
00:36:19,849 --> 00:36:16,500
that maybe that's the control system

911
00:36:23,089 --> 00:36:19,859
that Jacque Valley talks about

912
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:23,099
exactly there's many roads to get to the

913
00:36:26,770 --> 00:36:25,440
uh same destination I think and just

914
00:36:29,630 --> 00:36:26,780
being being

915
00:36:31,730 --> 00:36:29,640
chill yeah and it makes you feel more

916
00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:31,740
human I honestly feel that whatever

917
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:34,320
these phenomena represent they put us

918
00:36:39,710 --> 00:36:36,800
back in our shoes when you see a UFO

919
00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:39,720
holy [\h__\h] like you never you've never

920
00:36:44,810 --> 00:36:42,300
felt closer to the ground in front of

921
00:36:46,609 --> 00:36:44,820
you in that moment instead of scrolling

922
00:36:48,170 --> 00:36:46,619
on your phone or thinking about what's

923
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:48,180
for dinner how am I going to pay the

924
00:36:52,970 --> 00:36:49,920
next bill you see that thing in the sky

925
00:36:55,430 --> 00:36:52,980
that's not supposed to be there and boom

926
00:36:57,950 --> 00:36:55,440
you're put back in to the present moment

927
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:57,960
like never before and that's what I love

928
00:37:03,349 --> 00:37:00,720
about it the immediacy the vulnerability

929
00:37:06,650 --> 00:37:03,359
and someone like you said but this this

930
00:37:11,410 --> 00:37:06,660
Texan Sheriff like he probably doesn't

931
00:37:16,010 --> 00:37:14,030
and I'm just so jealous you guys who

932
00:37:18,170 --> 00:37:16,020
really have seen something I finally saw

933
00:37:19,730 --> 00:37:18,180
my first orb and everyone's making fun

934
00:37:21,530 --> 00:37:19,740
of me because they say I didn't see

935
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:21,540
anything oh they said oh you're drunk

936
00:37:27,710 --> 00:37:24,480
and I was like uh I might have been

937
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:27,720
but also I know what I saw I know what I

938
00:37:33,230 --> 00:37:30,480
saw I saw like again it was like I saw a

939
00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:33,240
blob floating down a train track and

940
00:37:41,290 --> 00:37:36,180
like you know I saw it down south and

941
00:37:45,290 --> 00:37:43,550
but it's interesting like that's the

942
00:37:47,450 --> 00:37:45,300
closest I ever got because you saw like

943
00:37:48,829 --> 00:37:47,460
an actual like well I want to cover in

944
00:37:50,750 --> 00:37:48,839
our interview but you saw an actual hard

945
00:37:51,790 --> 00:37:50,760
object in the sky

946
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:51,800
right

947
00:37:58,370 --> 00:37:55,200
to an extent I saw a structured

948
00:38:02,089 --> 00:37:58,380
formation of lights that I could not see

949
00:38:03,530 --> 00:38:02,099
anything behind it so I assume it was a

950
00:38:05,390 --> 00:38:03,540
structured Craft

951
00:38:08,150 --> 00:38:05,400
um but I didn't see like Machinery we'll

952
00:38:10,190 --> 00:38:08,160
talk about it on last podcast but uh

953
00:38:13,010 --> 00:38:10,200
overall yeah over under are triangles

954
00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:13,020
U.S tech what's your over under are

955
00:38:19,970 --> 00:38:16,200
triangles U.S tech I have a feeling

956
00:38:23,810 --> 00:38:19,980
that the triangles are U.S tech and that

957
00:38:26,569 --> 00:38:23,820
the the there's a there's a mixture of

958
00:38:28,670 --> 00:38:26,579
like and if you did like straight up

959
00:38:30,290 --> 00:38:28,680
it's just like when you see a flying

960
00:38:31,849 --> 00:38:30,300
saucer nobody knows what the hell that

961
00:38:33,290 --> 00:38:31,859
is yeah

962
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:33,300
yeah but I don't know what do you think

963
00:38:40,510 --> 00:38:36,960
I I honestly think with the triangles

964
00:38:44,930 --> 00:38:40,520
we're dealing with man-made craft

965
00:38:47,089 --> 00:38:44,940
with some other technology I I honestly

966
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:47,099
feel like it's the hybrid craft if

967
00:38:51,710 --> 00:38:49,680
they're if there is one do guys come to

968
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:51,720
you what's up because I get them I get

969
00:38:56,810 --> 00:38:54,240
some of these and some might take some

970
00:38:58,370 --> 00:38:56,820
might take word for word and some are

971
00:39:00,349 --> 00:38:58,380
more like I don't know what you're doing

972
00:39:01,970 --> 00:39:00,359
like people being like I got secret

973
00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:01,980
information for you I got secret

974
00:39:07,030 --> 00:39:03,900
pictures I got videos that you can't

975
00:39:10,490 --> 00:39:07,040
share and you when you see that stuff

976
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,500
like what do you do with it like does it

977
00:39:14,210 --> 00:39:12,960
just enforce like it's informed me I

978
00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:14,220
don't know what's real or what's not

979
00:39:17,569 --> 00:39:15,780
real it's just informed me that the

980
00:39:19,010 --> 00:39:17,579
thing is really deep but it's like is

981
00:39:21,950 --> 00:39:19,020
there anything that you've seen that

982
00:39:24,170 --> 00:39:21,960
you're not allowed to show that you're

983
00:39:26,089 --> 00:39:24,180
like I'm sorry I flipped this on you you

984
00:39:29,030 --> 00:39:26,099
gotta know for me you gotta take this

985
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:29,040
show from me dog pull it back pull it

986
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:31,440
back no that is a great question because

987
00:39:37,130 --> 00:39:33,839
I wanna I wanna I wanna know from you

988
00:39:39,410 --> 00:39:37,140
too like I get emails all the time I get

989
00:39:43,370 --> 00:39:39,420
um people sending me whether it's photos

990
00:39:46,430 --> 00:39:43,380
videos testimony or documents and

991
00:39:48,950 --> 00:39:46,440
I mean I take everyone and look at it

992
00:39:50,630 --> 00:39:48,960
you know I think there's value to anyone

993
00:39:51,950 --> 00:39:50,640
who's willing to take the time to reach

994
00:39:54,890 --> 00:39:51,960
out to me

995
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:54,900
um but it's such a subjective thing like

996
00:39:58,910 --> 00:39:56,880
when I get sent something and they say

997
00:40:01,609 --> 00:39:58,920
oh my God man like this is going to be

998
00:40:03,770 --> 00:40:01,619
Earth changing or like this this can't

999
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:03,780
be shown to anyone and then I look and

1000
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:07,200
it's a photo of like just a blurry light

1001
00:40:14,510 --> 00:40:11,760
in the sky and I understand that person

1002
00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:14,520
must have been freaking out absolutely

1003
00:40:17,630 --> 00:40:16,140
there's I'm not going to take that from

1004
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:17,640
them no and they're taking the pictures

1005
00:40:20,270 --> 00:40:18,720
they're like their hands are shaking

1006
00:40:22,250 --> 00:40:20,280
they're trying to take a picture

1007
00:40:24,109 --> 00:40:22,260
of a thing which is I don't know if

1008
00:40:25,849 --> 00:40:24,119
you've tried to take a picture of what

1009
00:40:27,950 --> 00:40:25,859
you think is an anomalous light in the

1010
00:40:30,829 --> 00:40:27,960
sky and then I take the picture and it

1011
00:40:33,890 --> 00:40:30,839
just looks yeah awful like it's just not

1012
00:40:36,109 --> 00:40:33,900
good you know but it they they felt the

1013
00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:36,119
feeling of seeing something and then

1014
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:39,060
desperate to desperate to catch it and I

1015
00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:40,800
I you know because you know you see it

1016
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:43,260
in all the subreddits the the main

1017
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,359
critique which is

1018
00:40:52,250 --> 00:40:48,000
if they were real wouldn't we have

1019
00:40:54,829 --> 00:40:52,260
Tick-Tock like full like 1080 like HD

1020
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:54,839
view of these things and it's like I

1021
00:41:00,170 --> 00:40:57,599
actually don't know if we would I don't

1022
00:41:02,930 --> 00:41:00,180
know whether or not if it is conscious

1023
00:41:04,910 --> 00:41:02,940
in and of itself it seems if you do

1024
00:41:07,010 --> 00:41:04,920
believe in the you know I love the new

1025
00:41:09,829 --> 00:41:07,020
Kirks Greg and Dana Newkirk do a whole

1026
00:41:12,050 --> 00:41:09,839
show about like mixing like all of these

1027
00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:12,060
sorts of like these these topics I want

1028
00:41:16,190 --> 00:41:14,520
topics at once like Cryptids ghosts

1029
00:41:19,130 --> 00:41:16,200
aliens and talk about the capital P

1030
00:41:22,670 --> 00:41:19,140
phenomena and the idea that like there

1031
00:41:25,370 --> 00:41:22,680
is a trickster aspect that like kind of

1032
00:41:27,349 --> 00:41:25,380
likes to flirt and it doesn't want you

1033
00:41:29,870 --> 00:41:27,359
to take a picture of it and it also

1034
00:41:31,970 --> 00:41:29,880
seems to be a dance between the object

1035
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:31,980
and the viewer or how many times you've

1036
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:33,599
seen give all of these witness accounts

1037
00:41:39,170 --> 00:41:35,520
talking like that same thing being like

1038
00:41:41,870 --> 00:41:39,180
I felt like it knew I was watching it

1039
00:41:43,970 --> 00:41:41,880
and it was doing a the it was doing a

1040
00:41:46,849 --> 00:41:43,980
performance for me like it was a

1041
00:41:49,069 --> 00:41:46,859
demonstration that term you see you that

1042
00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:49,079
comes up a lot and so like so you think

1043
00:41:52,550 --> 00:41:51,300
that thing's gonna dance around but

1044
00:41:55,010 --> 00:41:52,560
doesn't want you to [\h__\h] take a

1045
00:41:57,710 --> 00:41:55,020
camera man it's like Dave Chappelle he's

1046
00:41:59,510 --> 00:41:57,720
trying to work stuff out like it doesn't

1047
00:42:01,970 --> 00:41:59,520
want you to be there for it it doesn't

1048
00:42:03,650 --> 00:42:01,980
want you to nail it down because as soon

1049
00:42:06,530 --> 00:42:03,660
as we start nailing it down I mean you

1050
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:06,540
know again you could have the best HD

1051
00:42:12,109 --> 00:42:10,079
picture of a full saucer that you want

1052
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,119
and there's going to be somebody that's

1053
00:42:16,190 --> 00:42:13,920
gonna take it apart

1054
00:42:17,390 --> 00:42:16,200
as they should I don't even blame them I

1055
00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:17,400
don't even blame them like sure yeah of

1056
00:42:21,170 --> 00:42:19,380
course attack it go at it you're

1057
00:42:22,310 --> 00:42:21,180
supposed to but it's like you know

1058
00:42:23,930 --> 00:42:22,320
you're not gonna make people believe

1059
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:23,940
look at this stuff look what's been

1060
00:42:28,370 --> 00:42:26,400
happening in the last like six years is

1061
00:42:31,849 --> 00:42:28,380
that like you know I did a bit in our

1062
00:42:35,390 --> 00:42:31,859
live show about like UFOs became real

1063
00:42:37,069 --> 00:42:35,400
and absolutely nothing changed so why

1064
00:42:38,810 --> 00:42:37,079
don't we you know

1065
00:42:40,250 --> 00:42:38,820
who cares it's like why do they think

1066
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:40,260
that there is such a corporate thing to

1067
00:42:44,450 --> 00:42:42,000
even keep it all down I feel like it's

1068
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:44,460
just the phenomena is hard to capture

1069
00:42:50,050 --> 00:42:48,000
yeah absolutely man it's crazy and I

1070
00:42:52,250 --> 00:42:50,060
think that's where the true like

1071
00:42:55,849 --> 00:42:52,260
disclosure comes it comes with each

1072
00:42:56,690 --> 00:42:55,859
person who sees something and it uh you

1073
00:42:58,430 --> 00:42:56,700
know if we're gonna get like

1074
00:43:00,650 --> 00:42:58,440
metaphysical like the true disclosure is

1075
00:43:02,870 --> 00:43:00,660
from within like don't say the hard

1076
00:43:04,849 --> 00:43:02,880
government entity yeah exactly I don't

1077
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:04,859
need the US government make it legal for

1078
00:43:08,870 --> 00:43:06,960
me to believe I'm gonna disclose to

1079
00:43:11,450 --> 00:43:08,880
myself because if I don't disclose to

1080
00:43:13,790 --> 00:43:11,460
myself ain't nobody gonna disclose for

1081
00:43:18,770 --> 00:43:13,800
me and I think that's what this is about

1082
00:43:21,650 --> 00:43:18,780
you really it's about again it's letting

1083
00:43:24,290 --> 00:43:21,660
what's the Control System supposed to be

1084
00:43:27,230 --> 00:43:24,300
it's supposed to be about looking up at

1085
00:43:29,569 --> 00:43:27,240
the sky taking a moment to be with

1086
00:43:31,970 --> 00:43:29,579
yourself and the universe and you would

1087
00:43:34,190 --> 00:43:31,980
be surprised what comes out of that

1088
00:43:37,309 --> 00:43:34,200
hello you'd be surprised what comes out

1089
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:37,319
of just joining into the flow of Nature

1090
00:43:41,329 --> 00:43:40,079
and yes even if you're you know what do

1091
00:43:43,309 --> 00:43:41,339
you see now on online all the time

1092
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:43,319
people say touch grass or whatever but

1093
00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:46,560
it's like just being out they just

1094
00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:48,720
looking at the sky looking for UFOs is

1095
00:43:53,210 --> 00:43:51,000
going to even accidentally make you more

1096
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:53,220
connected to the Universe At Large and

1097
00:43:56,510 --> 00:43:54,720
there's there's something about that

1098
00:44:00,050 --> 00:43:56,520
like I don't know if there's a direct

1099
00:44:01,730 --> 00:44:00,060
personality baked into the operating

1100
00:44:02,809 --> 00:44:01,740
system that is our reality I don't know

1101
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,819
if there is something like that like

1102
00:44:06,290 --> 00:44:04,079
like

1103
00:44:08,930 --> 00:44:06,300
but there's something to be said about

1104
00:44:11,569 --> 00:44:08,940
how the phenomena is just saying like

1105
00:44:14,510 --> 00:44:11,579
all we want you to do is pay attention

1106
00:44:16,370 --> 00:44:14,520
to your heartbeat for a second like all

1107
00:44:17,870 --> 00:44:16,380
we want you to do is to pull your head

1108
00:44:20,410 --> 00:44:17,880
out of your ass

1109
00:44:24,170 --> 00:44:20,420
just for a second and not think about

1110
00:44:26,210 --> 00:44:24,180
all your garbage and just flow flow with

1111
00:44:27,530 --> 00:44:26,220
the universe because obviously yeah

1112
00:44:29,450 --> 00:44:27,540
we're shooting these things out of the

1113
00:44:31,730 --> 00:44:29,460
sky maybe whatever this thing is that

1114
00:44:33,410 --> 00:44:31,740
we're shooting but it's like it's just

1115
00:44:35,930 --> 00:44:33,420
floating there

1116
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:35,940
you know like it's not zigzagging around

1117
00:44:39,950 --> 00:44:38,160
it's not doing even doing the other [\h__\h]

1118
00:44:41,930 --> 00:44:39,960
it's not even like turning on nuclear

1119
00:44:44,030 --> 00:44:41,940
reactors it's not doing anything it's

1120
00:44:45,470 --> 00:44:44,040
just parked

1121
00:44:46,910 --> 00:44:45,480
yeah you know like and there's something

1122
00:44:49,370 --> 00:44:46,920
to be said about that there's something

1123
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:49,380
to be said about like having a moment of

1124
00:44:53,930 --> 00:44:51,839
Stillness and this is me saying it Lord

1125
00:44:56,210 --> 00:44:53,940
of [\h__\h] chaos that lives in a world

1126
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:56,220
of [\h__\h] but it's like it is there's

1127
00:45:00,349 --> 00:44:58,800
something about that about uh about

1128
00:45:01,910 --> 00:45:00,359
literally what Whitley strieber talks

1129
00:45:04,130 --> 00:45:01,920
about like you know literally communion

1130
00:45:08,630 --> 00:45:04,140
and what does it mean

1131
00:45:10,190 --> 00:45:08,640
to try to to give it up to nature for

1132
00:45:13,150 --> 00:45:10,200
seconds at a time

1133
00:45:15,530 --> 00:45:13,160
yeah and it'll change it

1134
00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:15,540
it will and then like you know like

1135
00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:18,480
those like if you've ever dude if you

1136
00:45:22,870 --> 00:45:19,740
watch a new documentary series on

1137
00:45:25,130 --> 00:45:22,880
Netflix about mushrooms the um

1138
00:45:27,530 --> 00:45:25,140
it's like it's really interesting but

1139
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:27,540
it's basically just talking about the

1140
00:45:31,910 --> 00:45:30,000
psychic qualities of mushrooms speaking

1141
00:45:33,650 --> 00:45:31,920
to each other that it's not psychic

1142
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:33,660
because it's mycelium spreading

1143
00:45:38,690 --> 00:45:36,000
throughout the soil but there's a lot to

1144
00:45:41,870 --> 00:45:38,700
learn about the way mushrooms behave

1145
00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:41,880
that probably are a mirror to how our

1146
00:45:47,569 --> 00:45:44,760
Consciousness Works inside of our

1147
00:45:49,309 --> 00:45:47,579
reality ah interesting and that we're

1148
00:45:51,770 --> 00:45:49,319
not we're remote that our Consciousness

1149
00:45:53,569 --> 00:45:51,780
is remote and they're all like plugged

1150
00:45:56,770 --> 00:45:53,579
in and then I was just reading do you

1151
00:45:58,910 --> 00:45:56,780
ever read Gene wolf

1152
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:58,920
and all that kind of stuff I was reading

1153
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:00,480
a short story by him last night and him

1154
00:46:04,430 --> 00:46:02,160
talking about like in this future that

1155
00:46:07,250 --> 00:46:04,440
they understand that like they struggled

1156
00:46:08,690 --> 00:46:07,260
for years to to isolate particles and

1157
00:46:10,490 --> 00:46:08,700
saying how like they used to call them

1158
00:46:13,309 --> 00:46:10,500
electrons and protons and now we

1159
00:46:16,370 --> 00:46:13,319
understand there's only one basic

1160
00:46:18,410 --> 00:46:16,380
element and one basic particle and we

1161
00:46:21,410 --> 00:46:18,420
are all it and it's all happening at the

1162
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:21,420
same time and I was like I know I'm high

1163
00:46:26,990 --> 00:46:23,760
as balls right now but I do believe that

1164
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:27,000
this is like more towards the truth

1165
00:46:32,950 --> 00:46:29,760
than not that it's like this thing you

1166
00:46:35,750 --> 00:46:32,960
know that that it's very very FernGully

1167
00:46:37,329 --> 00:46:35,760
but I I do think that there there's

1168
00:46:40,910 --> 00:46:37,339
something to it

1169
00:46:42,950 --> 00:46:40,920
interesting I'll have to check that out

1170
00:46:46,010 --> 00:46:42,960
um well hey man your short stories are

1171
00:46:48,589 --> 00:46:46,020
great Gene wolf oh yeah great he's these

1172
00:46:52,490 --> 00:46:48,599
Thief he freaks me out

1173
00:46:56,030 --> 00:46:52,500
yes to a to an extent where I think um

1174
00:46:58,309 --> 00:46:56,040
it freaks you out but it also again it

1175
00:47:00,770 --> 00:46:58,319
makes you think and it makes you wonder

1176
00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:00,780
and that's what this is all about yeah

1177
00:47:05,329 --> 00:47:04,079
so uh I love it well I got a couple you

1178
00:47:07,309 --> 00:47:05,339
got me positive for you you got me

1179
00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:07,319
positive because it was good screaming

1180
00:47:11,410 --> 00:47:09,839
it's so nice oh and I'm still screaming

1181
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:11,420
but I'm happy

1182
00:47:16,849 --> 00:47:14,160
I hey if that's what this conversation

1183
00:47:18,170 --> 00:47:16,859
is for then we've both done our jobs I

1184
00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:18,180
gotta get my blood pressure checked on

1185
00:47:22,970 --> 00:47:19,920
Friday I don't know what it's I'm I'm

1186
00:47:25,250 --> 00:47:22,980
afraid oh no I don't know what oh no

1187
00:47:26,930 --> 00:47:25,260
stay away from C-SPAN I'll tell you oh

1188
00:47:29,750 --> 00:47:26,940
god um

1189
00:47:32,210 --> 00:47:29,760
all right my bad so um we're gonna head

1190
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:32,220
over to last podcast soon but I gotta

1191
00:47:35,650 --> 00:47:33,960
get some listener questions in yes

1192
00:47:39,470 --> 00:47:35,660
please before we go if that's cool

1193
00:47:42,650 --> 00:47:39,480
absolutely awesome awesome so uh Black

1194
00:47:45,290 --> 00:47:42,660
Cat reported on patreon asks what advice

1195
00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:45,300
would you give to a new podcaster trying

1196
00:47:49,730 --> 00:47:47,280
to grow a community I know we touched on

1197
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:49,740
that earlier but yeah any anything you

1198
00:47:52,970 --> 00:47:51,119
can really say to someone who's just

1199
00:47:56,510 --> 00:47:52,980
getting involved in the podcasting world

1200
00:47:58,970 --> 00:47:56,520
you have to have a naive attachment to

1201
00:48:00,829 --> 00:47:58,980
doing the show like you really need to

1202
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:00,839
ask yourself to like do I want to do

1203
00:48:06,290 --> 00:48:03,119
this all the time and really love it

1204
00:48:10,609 --> 00:48:06,300
like and and get into it and the main

1205
00:48:14,390 --> 00:48:10,619
key is showing up same time same place

1206
00:48:16,670 --> 00:48:14,400
each week every week being Dependable

1207
00:48:18,470 --> 00:48:16,680
there really is the internet has a

1208
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:18,480
little bit like it's talking about

1209
00:48:22,730 --> 00:48:20,400
somebody that did the Internet is a

1210
00:48:24,530 --> 00:48:22,740
medium and the fact that like you can

1211
00:48:27,349 --> 00:48:24,540
build a trust with an audience that you

1212
00:48:30,109 --> 00:48:27,359
can that film and TV can and it's

1213
00:48:32,030 --> 00:48:30,119
building a place for people to go and

1214
00:48:34,550 --> 00:48:32,040
it's really being there

1215
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:34,560
you know rain or shine you know I I

1216
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:36,000
remember when I was starting to do

1217
00:48:40,849 --> 00:48:38,160
comedy in New York I think the same

1218
00:48:42,770 --> 00:48:40,859
Axiom applies where it's like you do the

1219
00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:42,780
same show for three people that you do

1220
00:48:48,349 --> 00:48:45,240
for 5 000 people like you do the same

1221
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:48,359
show because you're really just trying

1222
00:48:52,490 --> 00:48:50,160
to you should be so in love with the

1223
00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:52,500
craft of it that you're willing to move

1224
00:48:56,510 --> 00:48:54,900
forward and you just you do it

1225
00:48:58,130 --> 00:48:56,520
sustainably that's what it's like making

1226
00:49:00,170 --> 00:48:58,140
a way that it's sustainable for you and

1227
00:49:01,609 --> 00:49:00,180
you do it regularly and then all of a

1228
00:49:03,050 --> 00:49:01,619
sudden you're just gonna wake up and

1229
00:49:04,190 --> 00:49:03,060
you're gonna have a whole body of work

1230
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:04,200
and there's going to be a bunch of

1231
00:49:09,650 --> 00:49:06,240
people there too lose yourself in the in

1232
00:49:12,770 --> 00:49:09,660
a little bit of the work but in the 2023

1233
00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:12,780
mindset mindset like you do need to

1234
00:49:18,470 --> 00:49:15,359
create space for yourself as well like

1235
00:49:21,890 --> 00:49:18,480
you do you got to you got to like

1236
00:49:23,690 --> 00:49:21,900
play a video game walk away like you

1237
00:49:25,970 --> 00:49:23,700
gotta like do that stuff so that it it

1238
00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:25,980
is something you're super excited about

1239
00:49:31,370 --> 00:49:29,280
coming back around to and doing such a

1240
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:31,380
good point yeah and do what works and

1241
00:49:35,089 --> 00:49:33,359
drop what don't like literally there's

1242
00:49:36,410 --> 00:49:35,099
nothing sacred I think that's also an

1243
00:49:38,510 --> 00:49:36,420
important thing too is like there's

1244
00:49:41,390 --> 00:49:38,520
nothing sacred if the episode sucks

1245
00:49:44,329 --> 00:49:41,400
scrap it redo it yeah if they gotta wait

1246
00:49:45,710 --> 00:49:44,339
for it if they gotta wait for it then

1247
00:49:48,710 --> 00:49:45,720
they'll wait for it because it's better

1248
00:49:51,710 --> 00:49:48,720
for you to show up with the [\h__\h] good

1249
00:49:53,870 --> 00:49:51,720
versus like that's all right it's

1250
00:49:55,010 --> 00:49:53,880
whatever your name yeah just put out

1251
00:49:57,050 --> 00:49:55,020
there it's like especially in the

1252
00:49:59,089 --> 00:49:57,060
beginning stages like really really go

1253
00:50:00,950 --> 00:49:59,099
for it because when we started we didn't

1254
00:50:02,930 --> 00:50:00,960
under we didn't fully grasp that

1255
00:50:05,690 --> 00:50:02,940
everything was going to be permanent

1256
00:50:07,490 --> 00:50:05,700
you know like we sort of thought it but

1257
00:50:10,730 --> 00:50:07,500
we didn't really understand that it's

1258
00:50:13,250 --> 00:50:10,740
there forever so yeah that's it

1259
00:50:15,589 --> 00:50:13,260
yeah I love it I love that man that's

1260
00:50:20,030 --> 00:50:15,599
good advice for me too actually [\h__\h]

1261
00:50:21,950 --> 00:50:20,040
I wish I knew we all do uh Jonathan asks

1262
00:50:24,349 --> 00:50:21,960
uh actually we had quite a few people

1263
00:50:28,250 --> 00:50:24,359
ask this question what is your favorite

1264
00:50:30,589 --> 00:50:28,260
case what case would you put before a

1265
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:30,599
skeptic or the public at large to be

1266
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:32,880
like you need to pay attention to this

1267
00:50:38,089 --> 00:50:36,000
like it's documented something truly

1268
00:50:39,650 --> 00:50:38,099
anomalous is happening do you have like

1269
00:50:42,530 --> 00:50:39,660
a case you kind of would hang your hat

1270
00:50:46,010 --> 00:50:42,540
on I mean these days

1271
00:50:48,049 --> 00:50:46,020
I would put it towards uh rendelshim I

1272
00:50:50,510 --> 00:50:48,059
still think Randall shim is is yeah I

1273
00:50:53,450 --> 00:50:50,520
love I love that story there is there's

1274
00:50:56,089 --> 00:50:53,460
a lot to that story mainly because of

1275
00:50:58,430 --> 00:50:56,099
the nature of where it happened like it

1276
00:51:00,170 --> 00:50:58,440
happened at this like the essentially

1277
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:00,180
like a place for us to hide our nuclear

1278
00:51:04,730 --> 00:51:03,119
weapons in Europe like like it it's very

1279
00:51:05,930 --> 00:51:04,740
compelling I think I think that's really

1280
00:51:08,569 --> 00:51:05,940
interesting a bunch of people who are

1281
00:51:10,130 --> 00:51:08,579
trained to observe or people who saw it

1282
00:51:11,809 --> 00:51:10,140
I think that also points towards a

1283
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:11,819
little bit of physical evidence

1284
00:51:15,290 --> 00:51:13,440
um a whole bunch of people there to kind

1285
00:51:16,849 --> 00:51:15,300
of account for it happening I think it's

1286
00:51:20,150 --> 00:51:16,859
interesting and I think the aerial

1287
00:51:22,370 --> 00:51:20,160
School group sighting in Zimbabwe

1288
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:22,380
is also

1289
00:51:30,609 --> 00:51:26,880
harrowing and just again it points more

1290
00:51:35,690 --> 00:51:30,619
towards the physical slash psychic

1291
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:35,700
nature of the phenomena and there's that

1292
00:51:40,089 --> 00:51:37,200
a bunch of kids all see in the same

1293
00:51:42,890 --> 00:51:40,099
thing drawn pictures of it independently

1294
00:51:44,930 --> 00:51:42,900
they're they're they're that story

1295
00:51:47,870 --> 00:51:44,940
freaks me out

1296
00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:47,880
uh because everything else kind of gets

1297
00:51:52,130 --> 00:51:49,920
mired and stuff like you haven't yeah

1298
00:51:55,430 --> 00:51:52,140
everything else there's so much

1299
00:51:58,130 --> 00:51:55,440
noise around it and also kind of what

1300
00:52:00,410 --> 00:51:58,140
chocolate was doing in Brazil

1301
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:00,420
well all of those stories are very again

1302
00:52:06,770 --> 00:52:03,839
he's a legit researcher

1303
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,780
telling these stories and it there's but

1304
00:52:12,109 --> 00:52:08,640
yeah I think Rendell shim and aerial

1305
00:52:14,270 --> 00:52:12,119
School are like my favorites in terms of

1306
00:52:15,890 --> 00:52:14,280
like these are hyper these are very very

1307
00:52:19,329 --> 00:52:15,900
compelling especially when I bought that

1308
00:52:21,650 --> 00:52:19,339
like 250 delete was it 2500 page

1309
00:52:22,970 --> 00:52:21,660
self-published book that the guy wrote

1310
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:22,980
about the information that was like

1311
00:52:28,190 --> 00:52:25,200
downloaded into his head after he

1312
00:52:30,650 --> 00:52:28,200
touched the craft and you're like oh man

1313
00:52:33,290 --> 00:52:30,660
this guy did something happen to this

1314
00:52:36,349 --> 00:52:33,300
guy I don't know what happened but he is

1315
00:52:38,329 --> 00:52:36,359
he got busy I I have to write a comic

1316
00:52:41,329 --> 00:52:38,339
book in each one's 22 pages and it is

1317
00:52:43,250 --> 00:52:41,339
difficult the idea of writing 2500 Pages

1318
00:52:46,549 --> 00:52:43,260
something happened

1319
00:52:50,170 --> 00:52:46,559
definitely one of my favorite I'm hoping

1320
00:52:53,150 --> 00:52:50,180
to actually get to the forest soon

1321
00:52:54,730 --> 00:52:53,160
I gotta go I know I gotta take advantage

1322
00:52:57,950 --> 00:52:54,740
of it for sure

1323
00:53:02,750 --> 00:52:57,960
do it for the show then you then you can

1324
00:53:06,349 --> 00:53:04,130
you can because then you can kind of mix

1325
00:53:08,450 --> 00:53:06,359
it up with people and do interviews on

1326
00:53:10,190 --> 00:53:08,460
the ground and like I'm certain that

1327
00:53:12,170 --> 00:53:10,200
you'll dig up a bunch of like people

1328
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:12,180
that were there like it sounds really

1329
00:53:17,569 --> 00:53:15,119
that would be incredible yeah I'm on it

1330
00:53:18,770 --> 00:53:17,579
I'm on it man you've inspired me like I

1331
00:53:21,230 --> 00:53:18,780
just got to learn how to drive on the

1332
00:53:22,309 --> 00:53:21,240
other side of the road I'm very scared I

1333
00:53:24,170 --> 00:53:22,319
wouldn't do I don't know I'm not ready

1334
00:53:26,690 --> 00:53:24,180
last time we were in Europe I I wanted

1335
00:53:28,970 --> 00:53:26,700
to try one time I have a vision of doing

1336
00:53:30,770 --> 00:53:28,980
like a a driving trip around Europe I

1337
00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:30,780
think that would be fun to do but yeah

1338
00:53:36,650 --> 00:53:35,040
you got to get used to it you do you do

1339
00:53:38,930 --> 00:53:36,660
um all right last listener question

1340
00:53:40,670 --> 00:53:38,940
Henry I know we gotta get we gotta wrap

1341
00:53:43,970 --> 00:53:40,680
things up here shortly

1342
00:53:46,130 --> 00:53:43,980
um do you uh oh here we go does Henry

1343
00:53:48,410 --> 00:53:46,140
agree with Jacques vales because up

1344
00:53:50,569 --> 00:53:48,420
there you go he said the golden name

1345
00:53:52,730 --> 00:53:50,579
Jacques valet's position on the

1346
00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:52,740
phenomenon as outlined in passport to

1347
00:53:56,930 --> 00:53:54,839
Magonia or do you have your own theories

1348
00:53:58,430 --> 00:53:56,940
about what we're dealing with well I

1349
00:54:00,470 --> 00:53:58,440
talked a little bit about it but I do

1350
00:54:02,530 --> 00:54:00,480
think that

1351
00:54:05,690 --> 00:54:02,540
ah

1352
00:54:08,270 --> 00:54:05,700
let's just say I've had chemical help

1353
00:54:10,730 --> 00:54:08,280
with this but I also understand it's

1354
00:54:13,250 --> 00:54:10,740
very wooy woo but I really do believe

1355
00:54:15,049 --> 00:54:13,260
that anything that you can imagine

1356
00:54:19,490 --> 00:54:15,059
is real

1357
00:54:22,250 --> 00:54:19,500
at some point someplace

1358
00:54:24,349 --> 00:54:22,260
some Dimension that things are just real

1359
00:54:26,270 --> 00:54:24,359
that that you could if you thought of it

1360
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:26,280
you almost kind of just made it real

1361
00:54:30,170 --> 00:54:28,800
somewhere like I really think that

1362
00:54:31,370 --> 00:54:30,180
they're there's something to and that

1363
00:54:33,890 --> 00:54:31,380
there's

1364
00:54:37,130 --> 00:54:33,900
so many layers

1365
00:54:39,470 --> 00:54:37,140
to the phenomena that

1366
00:54:43,730 --> 00:54:39,480
I think Jacques valet is like that's the

1367
00:54:46,849 --> 00:54:43,740
one I like because I really appreciate

1368
00:54:48,650 --> 00:54:46,859
the concept of there's a half a world

1369
00:54:51,410 --> 00:54:48,660
that we're not paying attention to which

1370
00:54:54,230 --> 00:54:51,420
is like the psychic Realm

1371
00:54:57,470 --> 00:54:54,240
that to me is again just unexplored

1372
00:55:00,490 --> 00:54:57,480
science versus we will like it's way

1373
00:55:04,670 --> 00:55:00,500
more like we just don't really fully

1374
00:55:07,370 --> 00:55:04,680
maybe understand or have fully can even

1375
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:07,380
can investigate what our observation

1376
00:55:13,250 --> 00:55:10,319
does to reality and when like how our

1377
00:55:14,990 --> 00:55:13,260
group perception dominates reality and

1378
00:55:16,010 --> 00:55:15,000
then like you know what is an outsided

1379
00:55:18,829 --> 00:55:16,020
intelligent what is an outside

1380
00:55:22,430 --> 00:55:18,839
intelligence poking its way into our

1381
00:55:24,890 --> 00:55:22,440
view of the world and the way Jacques

1382
00:55:25,630 --> 00:55:24,900
Valley paints this concept of like you

1383
00:55:27,710 --> 00:55:25,640
know

1384
00:55:31,250 --> 00:55:27,720
charting all of these stories through

1385
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:31,260
folklore to now and equating you know

1386
00:55:37,010 --> 00:55:34,319
little people and and you know ogres and

1387
00:55:39,470 --> 00:55:37,020
and ghosts and and different things to

1388
00:55:41,750 --> 00:55:39,480
what we now view as like you know Grays

1389
00:55:44,030 --> 00:55:41,760
and Aliens I think it's just really

1390
00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:44,040
appropriate I just think that it doesn't

1391
00:55:49,430 --> 00:55:46,800
fit all the way in so it's like I think

1392
00:55:52,190 --> 00:55:49,440
that whatever we just blew up

1393
00:55:54,290 --> 00:55:52,200
if it's not what I said on side storage

1394
00:55:56,990 --> 00:55:54,300
I do believe it's probably our private

1395
00:55:59,569 --> 00:55:57,000
Tech that we're blowing up but if it's

1396
00:56:01,790 --> 00:55:59,579
not that and we're just blowing up these

1397
00:56:03,710 --> 00:56:01,800
weird bogeys in the sky

1398
00:56:06,049 --> 00:56:03,720
that's something else too

1399
00:56:07,549 --> 00:56:06,059
like you know I don't know what that is

1400
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:07,559
like there's something else and then

1401
00:56:11,089 --> 00:56:09,599
like then I've had listeners say to me

1402
00:56:12,589 --> 00:56:11,099
because like I'm way into the psychic

1403
00:56:15,290 --> 00:56:12,599
thing and then recently I had a listener

1404
00:56:16,970 --> 00:56:15,300
who was like you keep you're honestly

1405
00:56:19,069 --> 00:56:16,980
you keep saying the psychic thing but

1406
00:56:21,530 --> 00:56:19,079
whoever is abducting me is pretty

1407
00:56:22,849 --> 00:56:21,540
physical and it's like damn that's like

1408
00:56:25,250 --> 00:56:22,859
a whole other thing

1409
00:56:27,470 --> 00:56:25,260
that I don't particularly understand I

1410
00:56:30,890 --> 00:56:27,480
did a narration for documentary about

1411
00:56:33,589 --> 00:56:30,900
the hybrid program what Grays like and

1412
00:56:35,569 --> 00:56:33,599
the way these women talk about this it's

1413
00:56:38,030 --> 00:56:35,579
the same as sexual assault they talk

1414
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:38,040
about this like like it would like truly

1415
00:56:43,069 --> 00:56:40,319
they experience something and then the

1416
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:43,079
the grief and of watching your baby be

1417
00:56:46,910 --> 00:56:44,880
taking from you and and you could see

1418
00:56:49,370 --> 00:56:46,920
these gray they're in like is that a

1419
00:56:51,170 --> 00:56:49,380
psychic projection from something else I

1420
00:56:52,270 --> 00:56:51,180
don't know is that concrete concrete

1421
00:56:55,309 --> 00:56:52,280
reality

1422
00:56:57,470 --> 00:56:55,319
they're feeling like it is so it's just

1423
00:57:01,190 --> 00:56:57,480
very it's just it's just so interesting

1424
00:57:02,450 --> 00:57:01,200
and it lies at the very weird hazy point

1425
00:57:08,930 --> 00:57:02,460
of

1426
00:57:09,790 --> 00:57:08,940
you know then you get to the Bill

1427
00:57:13,790 --> 00:57:09,800
Clinton

1428
00:57:17,210 --> 00:57:13,800
what does is mean like that very bottom

1429
00:57:21,230 --> 00:57:17,220
neutrino of logic of like what is real

1430
00:57:23,930 --> 00:57:21,240
and uh you know I feel like we're

1431
00:57:25,730 --> 00:57:23,940
[\h__\h] too heavy on it dog we're all so

1432
00:57:27,650 --> 00:57:25,740
[\h__\h] concerned about what's real dog

1433
00:57:30,770 --> 00:57:27,660
what's like the only thing I know is

1434
00:57:33,049 --> 00:57:30,780
that like I can't wish taxes away even

1435
00:57:34,970 --> 00:57:33,059
though like I wish I could they keep

1436
00:57:36,829 --> 00:57:34,980
that's a persistent thing that keeps

1437
00:57:39,650 --> 00:57:36,839
[\h__\h] rolling in

1438
00:57:41,630 --> 00:57:39,660
so I don't know I I mean who knows but

1439
00:57:44,270 --> 00:57:41,640
yes of course Jacques valet have been

1440
00:57:46,670 --> 00:57:44,280
heavily inspired by because I also I

1441
00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:46,680
think that any one explanation is too

1442
00:57:50,210 --> 00:57:47,760
reductive

1443
00:57:52,790 --> 00:57:50,220
over what we're experiencing

1444
00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:52,800
absolutely I love that what is real I

1445
00:57:57,349 --> 00:57:54,480
think that's a good place to kind of

1446
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:57,359
leave everyone wondering here quit your

1447
00:58:00,589 --> 00:57:58,319
job man

1448
00:58:02,930 --> 00:58:00,599
yeah quit your job that's like [\h__\h] Jeff

1449
00:58:05,089 --> 00:58:02,940
dude oh Jeff wants you to come in extra

1450
00:58:10,329 --> 00:58:05,099
on Saturday be like what is the

1451
00:58:15,950 --> 00:58:13,430
with Ben Kissel we have our active Axiom

1452
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:15,960
which is time is not real but schedules

1453
00:58:23,450 --> 00:58:20,400
are so yes we know time to construct but

1454
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:23,460
we have a we have a zoom

1455
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:27,119
a link that goes active at 145. okay

1456
00:58:34,849 --> 00:58:31,440
let's do it let's do it it's done it's

1457
00:58:36,589 --> 00:58:34,859
done Henry dude brother I know uh we

1458
00:58:39,890 --> 00:58:36,599
only scratched the surface I gotta get

1459
00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:39,900
you back on such a fan I'm so glad to be

1460
00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:43,440
here love the show great work we'll keep

1461
00:58:47,450 --> 00:58:45,359
going back and forth

1462
00:58:50,450 --> 00:58:47,460
um you could tell the other ufologists

1463
00:58:51,890 --> 00:58:50,460
I'm sorry if I've made fun of them

1464
00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:51,900
um that's an extension of my own

1465
00:58:56,030 --> 00:58:54,480
insecurity you can let them know I know

1466
00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:56,040
for a fact that it's like because we all

1467
00:58:59,870 --> 00:58:58,559
have the same Winnie the pooh-shaped

1468
00:59:02,150 --> 00:58:59,880
body

1469
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:02,160
and this is this is how it is this is

1470
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:04,319
just this is the lot we've been given

1471
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:07,440
that is reality yeah goodness dude

1472
00:59:11,150 --> 00:59:09,599
before you go please let us know where

1473
00:59:13,250 --> 00:59:11,160
we could find everything you guys do

1474
00:59:15,470 --> 00:59:13,260
over there and uh where we can learn

1475
00:59:17,329 --> 00:59:15,480
more about you check out last podcast on

1476
00:59:19,370 --> 00:59:17,339
the left at LP on the left and all the

1477
00:59:21,950 --> 00:59:19,380
various socials

1478
00:59:24,109 --> 00:59:21,960
um I uh I have a bunch of different you

1479
00:59:25,370 --> 00:59:24,119
know projects I'm working on like right

1480
00:59:26,750 --> 00:59:25,380
now if you want to check out I do a show

1481
00:59:27,950 --> 00:59:26,760
for Adult Swim called your pretty face

1482
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:27,960
is going to hell I don't do it anymore

1483
00:59:33,349 --> 00:59:29,520
it's been canceled but I just say it out

1484
00:59:35,510 --> 00:59:33,359
of out of just grief remorse and then um

1485
00:59:37,730 --> 00:59:35,520
but we have a new series on YouTube we

1486
00:59:39,410 --> 00:59:37,740
have YouTube uh cartoons versions of it

1487
00:59:40,849 --> 00:59:39,420
that we've been doing now

1488
00:59:43,069 --> 00:59:40,859
um and

1489
00:59:45,829 --> 00:59:43,079
honestly we're doing a bunch of stuff

1490
00:59:47,329 --> 00:59:45,839
like like I'm very excited we're writing

1491
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:47,339
a comic book for Dark Horse Called

1492
00:59:53,329 --> 00:59:50,720
operation sunshine it's a vampire Heist

1493
00:59:56,750 --> 00:59:53,339
story that'll be coming out in October

1494
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:56,760
uh it's really fun you know just like

1495
01:00:01,549 --> 00:59:59,280
just I don't know very lucky

1496
01:00:03,530 --> 01:00:01,559
and I'm here man

1497
01:00:04,609 --> 01:00:03,540
I love it see you mobile and consumable

1498
01:00:06,109 --> 01:00:04,619
[\h__\h] because I don't really you

1499
01:00:08,450 --> 01:00:06,119
could look at my socials but it doesn't

1500
01:00:10,010 --> 01:00:08,460
matter I just posted I basically just

1501
01:00:13,510 --> 01:00:10,020
advertise for everything else so it

1502
01:00:17,809 --> 01:00:16,069
well hey we're gonna go head over to

1503
01:00:19,549 --> 01:00:17,819
your patreon to continue the

1504
01:00:22,010 --> 01:00:19,559
conversation so everybody I don't know

1505
01:00:23,630 --> 01:00:22,020
when this will go up but um head over to

1506
01:00:25,130 --> 01:00:23,640
the last podcast on the left patreon

1507
01:00:28,069 --> 01:00:25,140
we're going to continue our UFO

1508
01:00:30,109 --> 01:00:28,079
conversation over there and Henry I

1509
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:30,119
can't wait man to have you back on in

1510
01:00:33,410 --> 01:00:31,440
the near future

1511
01:00:35,270 --> 01:00:33,420
um and we will speak soon thank you so

1512
01:00:38,809 --> 01:00:35,280
much brother of course bro hey I'll say

1513
01:00:57,710 --> 01:00:41,930
ha

1514
01:00:58,820 --> 01:00:57,720
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